Making ready for kick-off at RoboCup2025: an interview with Basic Chair Marco Simões

The Salvador Conference Heart, the place RoboCup 2025 will happen.

RoboCup is a world scientific initiative with the purpose of advancing the state-of-the-art of clever robots, AI and automation. The annual RoboCup occasion, the place groups collect from throughout the globe to participate in competitions throughout quite a few leagues, will this 12 months happen in Brazil, from 15-21 July. We spoke to Marco Simões, one of many Basic Chairs of RoboCup 2025 and President of RoboCup Brazil, to search out out what plans they’ve for the occasion, some new initiatives, and the way RoboCup has grown in Brazil over the previous ten years.

Marco Simões

Might you give us a fast introduction to RoboCup 2025?

RoboCup will probably be held in Salvador, Brazil. When RoboCup was held in Brazil 11 years in the past, in 2014, we had a complete of 100,000 guests, in order that was an amazing success. This 12 months, we count on much more, round 150,000, throughout all of the occasions. These days, AI and robotics are attracting extra consideration. We’re additionally in a city, Salvador, with a much bigger inhabitants than the earlier location (João Pessoa). For these causes, we estimate the attendance to be about 150,000 individuals.

Concerning the variety of groups, registration has not closed but, so we’re uncertain in regards to the last numbers. Nevertheless, we count on to have about 300-400 groups and round 3000 rivals. We have now been serving to with visas, so we hope to see larger participation from groups who couldn’t attend within the earlier two years as a consequence of visa points. We’re doing our greatest to make sure individuals can come and have enjoyable at RoboCup!

That is additionally an amazing 12 months for the RoboCup group: We have now simply agreed on new international league companions, together with the Chinese language corporations Unitree, Fourier, and Booster Robotics. They are going to convey their humanoids and four-legged robots to RoboCup. These won’t solely be flaunted to the general public but in addition utilized by some groups. They’re superb robots with excellent abilities. So, I believe this will probably be an incredible version of RoboCup this 12 months.

Did the 2014 occasion in Brazil encourage extra groups to take part in RoboCup?

Sure, we have now seen a big improve in our RoboCup group. Within the final two years, Brazil has had the fourth-largest variety of groups and individuals at RoboCup in Bordeaux (2023) and Eindhoven (2024). This was a really huge improve as a result of ten years in the past, we weren’t even within the high eight or 9.

We’ve made a big effort with RoboCupJunior within the final ten years. Most individuals who’ve taken half in RoboCupJunior have carried on and joined the RoboCup Main League. So, the variety of groups in Brazil has been rising 12 months by 12 months during the last ten years. This 12 months, we have now a large number of individuals due to the decrease journey prices. We expect to be within the high three this 12 months by way of the best variety of individuals.

Photograph of individuals at RoboCup 2024, which passed off in Eindhoven. Photograph credit score: RoboCup/Bart van Overbeeke

It’s spectacular that so many RoboCupJunior individuals go on to hitch a Main League crew.

Sure, we have now an initiative right here in Brazil referred to as the Brazilian Robotics Olympiad. On this occasion, we selected two Junior Leagues – OnStage and the Rescue Line League – and we organized a contest primarily based on these two Leagues. We run it in regional competitions throughout Brazil – so 27 states. We manage a minimum of one competitors in every state throughout the 12 months, and one of the best groups from every state come to the nationwide competitors along with the Main Leagues. We manage the Brazilian Olympiad to get RoboCupJunior to extra college students. That is how we’ve managed to extend participation in RoboCupJunior. Then, when college students go to school, a lot of them proceed to take part, however within the Main Leagues. In order that’s a really profitable technique we’ve utilized in Brazil within the final 10 years.

Might you inform us about some extra of the highlights from the Brazilian RoboCup group lately?

Two or three years in the past, one of many Brazilian groups was the champion of RoboCup @House. We have now seen a giant improve within the variety of groups within the @House League. Within the nationwide competitors in Brazil, we have now greater than 12 groups taking part. Again in 2014, we solely had one crew taking part. So we’ve had an amazing improve—this League is among the highlights in Brazil.

Extra groups are additionally taking part within the Small Dimension League (a part of the soccer League). Two years in the past, one of many Brazilian groups was the champion of the division B of the Small Dimension League. So, during the last 5 years, we’ve seen some Brazilian groups within the high three positions in Main Leagues within the RoboCup world competitors. It is a results of the rise within the variety of groups and the standard of what the groups are growing. So at the moment, we have now an elevated variety of publications and groups taking part within the competitors with good outcomes, in order that’s crucial.

One other wonderful contribution for this 12 months is a league we created 5 years in the past – a flying robotic league, the place autonomous drones carry out some missions and duties. We’ve proposed this League as a demo for RoboCup2025, and we can have a Flying Robotic Demo on the competitors this 12 months. This would be the first time we’ll have autonomous drones on the RoboCup competitors, and the Brazilian group proposed it.

RoboCup @House with Toyota HSR robots within the Home Commonplace Platform League, RoboCup 2024. Photograph: RoboCup/Bart van Overbeeke.

Will you be participating within the competitors this 12 months, or will you be focusing totally in your function as Basic Chair?

This 12 months, my laboratory (ACSO/Uneb) has certified for the 3d Simulation League (soccer), the Flying Robotic Demo, and RoboCup @House, so we’re taking part in three Leagues. We additionally supervise RoboCupJunior Groups within the Rescue Simulation League. This 12 months, my college students have had solely just a little supervision from me as a result of I’ve been very engaged with the group.

In our 3D simulation crew, we have now a number of developments with deep reinforcement studying and a few new novel methods that enable our groups to achieve new abilities, and we’re combining the brand new abilities with our former multi-agent coordination technique. For that reason, I believe we can have a sturdy crew within the competitors as a result of we aren’t solely engaged on abilities, we’re additionally engaged on multi-agency methods. When each elements are joined, you possibly can have a extremely good soccer crew that performs very effectively. We have now an excellent crew and count on to attain a better place this 12 months. Within the latter years, we have been within the high 4 or 5, however we hope to get into the highest three this 12 months.

In 3D, you not solely work on multi-agent elements but in addition must work on abilities similar to strolling, kicking, and operating. Groups are actually attempting to develop new abilities. For instance, lately, our crew has developed the dash operating motion, which was a results of deep reinforcement studying. It isn’t a pure operating movement however a operating motion that works in keeping with the League’s guidelines. It makes the robots go very quick from one level to a different, making the crew very aggressive.

Most groups are studying abilities however don’t know learn how to exploit them strategically within the sport. Our focus shouldn’t be solely on creating new abilities but in addition on utilizing them strategically. We’re presently engaged on a really modern method.

This 12 months, the simulation league will run a problem utilizing a brand new simulator primarily based on MuJoCo. If the problem goes effectively, we might transfer to this new simulator within the following years, which may extra realistically simulate actual humanoid robots.

Motion from the semi-finals of RoboCup Soccer Humanoid League at RoboCup 2024. Photograph: RoboCup/Bart van Overbeeke.

Lastly, is there the rest you’d like to spotlight about RoboCup2025?

We’re engaged on partnerships with native corporations. For instance, we have now sponsorship from Petrobras, one of many largest oil corporations on this planet. They are going to focus on how they’re utilizing robotics and AI of their business. They have been additionally one of many first sponsors of the Flying Robots League. It’s essential to have these hyperlinks between business and the RoboCup group.

We even have wonderful help from native corporations and the federal government. They are going to be displaying the group their newest developments. Within the Rescue League, for instance, we’ll have an indication from the native drive displaying what they do to help individuals in catastrophe conditions.

This occasion can also be a wonderful alternative for RoboCuppers, particularly those that have by no means been to Brazil, to spend some days after the occasion in Salvador, visiting some vacationer spots. Salvador was the primary Brazilian capital, so we have now a wealthy historical past. There are quite a lot of historic websites to see and a few nice leisure choices, similar to seashores or events. Folks can have enjoyable and benefit from the nation!

About Marco

Marco Simões is an Affiliate Professor at Bahia State College, Salvador, Brazil. He’s the Basic Chair of RoboCup2025, and President of RoboCup Brazil.

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